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  1. Jacques Straw
    October 18, 2012

    Reading some of the posts linked above got me thinking back to the rehash of the ‘attunements’ argument that the community got into a few months back.

    What I really want to know is why an ‘attunement’ is bad, yet a system that forces me to grind rep with multiple factions and grind heroics for weeks to get the valor points to buy the gear to make me raid-ready is any better? At least the long, epic attunement quests of yore were interesting and unique. Killing a different selection of 10 foozles or gathering a dozen widgets for the various factions every day has more or less the same purpose but without the novelty.

    I’ve got my main at 90 and have been playing on average 2 hours a day for the last 10 days or so and I’m barely at the point where I can queue for raid finder (at 459 iLevel). I’m hoping I get to the part where I can raid before my frustration with this repetition makes me want to quit…

  2. Znuff
    October 19, 2012

    People are kind of over-reacting. Don’t get me wrong: I hate dailies with a passion, but, thing is, last night I’ve finished getting Klaxxi to exalted. Tomorrow I’m done with Golden Lotus and probably next week I will be done with Shado-Pan and August Celestials (Shado-Pan first, most likely).

    On the other hand, I have stashed over 1000x Lesser Charms, so after I’m done I won’t have any need for doing dailies anymore for at least the duration of this patch. 5.1 will most likely bring the PvP faction, which I doubt will interested me the least.

    Sure, it’s been an annoying bumpy ride, but I take comfort in knowing that in 2 weeks tops all I’ll have to do is to get my head around the pet battle system if I’m /that/ bored.

  3. Ama
    October 19, 2012

    I agree. These dailies are killing the game for me. My raid group is extremely undergeared b/c only a few of us will do dailies(not me). My favorite part of this game was that I could play with friends. Now I cant do that. I have a couple hours a day I can play and I dont want to spend it doing chores.

  4. Filip
    October 22, 2012

    If you see a game as a chore, then honey you have a problem and should probably find a new past time.

    I really can’t stand the whining around the dailies. What people are basically saying is: I don’t have any internal mechanisms or organising skills to meaningfully do dailies and I am a spoiled brat who wants an epic in all slots right now! If there was still the daily limit in place, there would be no problems. Well guess what kids? This only means that the daily limit now is subjective. If you find yourself burned out after doing 15 quests then that’s your daily limit. If you wanna puke after 25, then that’s yours. No one is forcing you to do all the dailies. And if you feel forced to do it by someone/something you really should do some re-evaluation of how you spend your time.

    • Hugh Hancock
      October 22, 2012

      Whilst I can see your point, I think that you’re somewhat ignoring the effects of the competitive side of raiding.

      If you’re a hardcore raider interested in Server Firsts, that can be a very healthy, positive hobby – but with the new dailies setup, the maximum amount of time that a hardcore raider can productively spend improving their chances has gone up dramatically. That in turn means that if you’re on a server with a guild that is willing to put that time in – perhaps because of their lifestyles affording them that time – you’ve got a very difficult decision to make.

      Do you put in the time or do you not?

      Under that circumstance, it’s not as easy as just saying “I’ve got willpower so I won’t do dailies”. Willpower isn’t the issue. Remaining competitive in an e-sport you enjoy, not letting down people you respect (your fellow guild mates) and potentially, losing a hobby you get a lot of value from are the issues.

      • Filip
        October 22, 2012

        Roughly speaking, there is only a handful of guilds out there who could really qualify as being part of an e-sport. Rest are wannabes. Maybe this is reality check.

      • Hugh Hancock
        October 22, 2012

        What would you say qualifies a guild to be “part of” an e-sport, then?

      • Filip
        October 22, 2012

        Demigods who have opportunity to play 24/7. I’m sorry but for the rest of us, there will be trade offs.

      • Hugh Hancock
        October 22, 2012

        I think we may have a different definition of E-Sport here. I wouldn’t say you have to be professional-level to qualify as someone who plays a sport, wheras you seem to be arguing that if you’re not top-level, you don’t qualify as being involved in anything in particular.

        To give an example – I’m not about to become Heavyweight Champion of the UFC any time soon. Indeed, I’m really not very good compared to any semi-pro fighter. However, I’ve enjoyed training in Mixed Martial Arts, and I’d say I was someone who has been active in that sport.

        In the same vein, if you’re a serious raider with, say, a chance at server firsts on Hardcore modes, I’d say you were active in the E-Sport of WoW raiding, despite the fact that you’re not part of Paragon.

        That’s the context I was talking about above. Difficult choices in your hobby or sport of choice don’t begin at world-class level – I’ve still had to make hard choices about how much I trained in MMA, for example, and likewise if I was an active hardcore raider I’d be facing some difficult choices in that right now.

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