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  1. Halen
    August 29, 2012

    Hmm thats all well and good, However if all i planned to ever do was heal.

    Why the hell wouldnt i just roll holy? why would i waste time on a heal/dps hybrid when i could go bigger in heals ?

    [Insults removed by editor]

    • Hugh Hancock
      August 29, 2012

      Erm… OK, well, if I find any Discipline DPS guides I’ll let you know…

    • Axerayah
      October 20, 2012

      I really love discipline, cause I rather prevent ppl from taking dmg and do some dmg myself, not just sit there and spam heal heal heal… boring. I like to heal and to dps so discipline is perfect for me plus Holy fire, Smite and Penance can do really nice dps!
      And If you know the fight and know your class well you can do awesome healing, much more than Holy.
      I’m only sad that Archangel no longer giefs us mana back :(

  2. Rachel
    August 29, 2012

    I don’t really understand the reader’s question/comment above. I’ve been smite healing on my priest since it was introduced. The thing about atonement is that you have to have a pretty good understanding of the fights and be able to sort of predict damage so that you know when to stop smiting and start casting bigger heals or using cooldowns. I get pretty tired of the whole “holy vs disc debate”. The fact of the matter is that both healing specs are great in different situations. I find that a well-balanced healing team includes both. Discipline priests have a TON of tools at their disposal and are well-equipped to handle a variety of situations. And for those of you that still think discipline can’t pull the numbers other specs can…you haven’t met me. With my current level of gear (mainly heroic DS and regular DS items) I did a dry run in LFR last night to check out the new changes and did twice the healing as any other single person in the group. I noticed that I shot up to almost 30 hps towards the beginning of madness just by smiting, prayer of mending and putting shield on the tank (no real healing at that point). Ended the fight with maybe 26+K healing done and around 4k dps (not a lot, but still useful for finishing off blisterings and whatnot) I haven’t really figured out how everything is going to balance out yet or how I should manage my mana, but so far I am liking the changes and will continue to play my favorite healer/spec. : ) Happy healing!

    • Hugh Hancock
      August 29, 2012

      It’s a little-known secret (particularly since these guides used to suggest Smite was a more advanced style of Disc play), but I’ve been playing a Smite priest since about six months after they came out too (as an alt, natch)! It’s a wonderful class, and I highly recommend it.

    • bubsoxs
      September 12, 2012


  3. kesera
    August 31, 2012

    I didn’t play smite/archangel in Cata because I had a PvP spec. I used to keep up with the PvE smiter in DS, so I wasn’t terribly worried about archangel before.

    I was actually really bummed on Tuesday when everything switched over that I wouldn’t be a “pure healer” and would be forced to DPS/archangel my way through healing. After getting over myself, I have been trying it and really have kinda fell back in love with my priest.


  4. Joe Bowers
    September 5, 2012

    Note sure why you said smite-healing is only for low-level dungeons. Attonement (ie Smite and Holy Fire healing) is the foundation of the disc healing build, and can easily heal Heroic difficulty end-game content. While the healing power is less than a pure Holy build, the added DPS means mobs die faster, and every cast of Smite or Holy Fire is a smart heal, always going to the player that needs it most.

    • Hugh Hancock
      September 5, 2012

      I agree – Smite healing goes right up to the end-game.

      I was making a joke in the introduction about the power of *just* casting Smite, however – in lower-level dungeons, you can literally go through the entire dungeon just doing that, but in Heroics with Heroic-level gear, you’ll need to do a bit more than that, as I’m sure you know!

      • Christian Søreide
        September 5, 2012

        I agree too. Smite-healing goes right up to the end-game. Through cata after 6 months I got more and more used to dischealing. (Before that I struggled healing as priest overall.) The key for me to heal well and efficeint through dungeons and raidcontent might be the rotation i chose. Power Word: Infusion + Holy Fire + Smite. Infusion gave me speedhasteincrease for a long enough time to build evangelsimstacks quickly through atonement. Having glyph of Holy Fire made me do additional dmg and healing. Mana was seldom a problem and healing and shielding was good.

      • bubsoxs
        September 12, 2012

        i actualy have Power infusion macrod to my holy fire.. so it pops when ever CD is up and its instant, soo it shares a global CD aswell! also works the same with Inner focus with Gheal.. try that out.. saves button pressing and watching the CD’s

  5. Jibz
    September 6, 2012

    I’m not sure why someone would dis Disc healing. Anytime I get a negative comment about Disc healing, I always tell them to look at their recount, and look how much over-healing I do. Compared to other healers, I use my mana more efficiently and effectively thanks to the ‘smart heals.’ /shrugs\

  6. Martin
    September 10, 2012

    I had Dics and atonoment disc.. i liked both spec, normaly i just used “normal” disc spec with out atonioment, but found it rellay effective on Madness.. dps about 18k and heal about 15k.. Im gonna miss the old normal disc.. Just have to found out how to avoid running out of mana..
    Shawodfiend i cant find in my spellbok..!! :O( so is it from a talent now..??


    • Evlyxx
      November 28, 2012

      Shadowfiend changes to Mindbender when you take the Mindbender talent (1 min Shadowfiend).

      Also spotted yesterday that the Mindbender changed from teh squidlike creature to a mini Sha. Sad I liked my lil squid!

  7. Daniel
    September 11, 2012

    You can use Penance to heal party members at the same time you fight with mobs. Nice guide btw!!

    • Evlyxx
      November 28, 2012

      Indeed people often refer to Disc as a tank healing spec when it is we are more aof a single target healing specialist so where you read tank replace that with single target and everything holds true even if you’re on raid healing duty.

  8. bubsoxs
    September 12, 2012

    I was a holy preist till the end of WotLK and i love Disc since ive played it.. and its only got better.. im actualy glad they made mana a bit diff.. it was almost to easy! they seem to be forcing the Heal spell since Cata.. but i still have yet to even put it on my toolbar or keybind yet.. but it may have to happen… 😀 im sure in blue gear again in panda i just might have to!!! BTW try Shadow PVP.. its OP……

  9. Mags
    September 17, 2012

    I’ve been smashing non stop bg’s and dungeons with my priest since the latest patch and i 1.. Top every battleground in both healing/dps and kb’s (usually) and 2. Top both dps AND heals as a healer in every dungeon i run. They are so overpowered right now it is unbelievable. I can’t comment as far as 85 goes because this toon is only 62, but penance is a bit of a joke for damage at the moment. Super hacks. 1 penance and someone is dead. 65 Kb’s 2 deaths in the last AV i did.

    • Evlyxx
      November 28, 2012

      Agreed low level Disc is an OP class right now, sadly it levels out normal weak healer in questing zones somewhere between 70 and 85.

  10. Nick
    March 7, 2013

    I would have to disagree with Glyph of Fade and Holy fire now that 5.2 is out. I run Glyph of Smite since we use Holy Fire or Solace on CD. Smite works with both so its an extra 20% damage also meaning 20% extra heal. Just something to think about. Also I don’t run Glyph of Holy Fire anymore with 5.2. Its instant anyway. I run Glyph of Prayer of Mending for the extra 60% boost to the first jump. Keep up the good work though!

    • Hugh Hancock
      March 13, 2013

      Good points on all counts! Thanks – I think I’ll update to reflect your recommendations on the Smite glyph at least, as that’s a damn good argument.

  11. Drag5
    June 6, 2013

    Just a note…Glyph of Smite does an extra 20% dmg but it does NOT heal for an extra 20%!!!
    Read the description of the glyph carefuly!

    Your Smite spell inflicts an additional 20% damage against targets afflicted by Holy Fire, but that additional damage does not get transferred by Atonement.

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    I have now got my priest close to 60, I go back and forth, Disc, Holy, and I find after playing Disc for a while, I do just as good DPs/healing on my holy as well.. Good guide, I do like Disc for most instances, but I can do just as well Holy.. Of course I am not up to the hard instances yet but So far, I have no worries on healing or DPS as Holy.

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