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  1. Fengshuter
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    Very nice, straight to the point. tyvm

    • Hugh Hancock
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      No worries! Glad you liked it.

  2. Rodrigo Fogagnolo
    September 11, 2012

    I disagree about Tier 2 and Tier 5 of talents… I think Purgatory and Blood Tap are much better

    • Hugh Hancock
      September 12, 2012

      I’d strongly recommend reading the EJ guide on talents – it explains why I didn’t recommend Purgatory, amongst other things. Purgatory is one of those talents that looks great but doesn’t exactly perform as anticipated.

      Blood Tap is a strong alternative choice in Tier 5 if you want to avoid RNG.

  3. Kalc
    September 25, 2012

    Excellent introductory guide!

    One suggestion I have, however, is that you revise the portion about reforging dodge and parry to equivalent levels. In fact, our dodge and parry suffer from diminishing returns at incredibly different rates, meaning that for each percent of dodge, we’d want 2 or more percent parry (depending upon our current rating levels, the balance is actually in exponential decay) to get the maximal amount of avoidance. More information is available at the links below.

    http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t130560-blood_tanking_actively_mitigating_since_before_cool/#Balancing_out_Dodge_and_Parry

    http://sacredduty.net/2012/07/06/avoidance-diminishing-returns-in-mop-part-3/

    Cheers,
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    • Hugh Hancock
      September 25, 2012

      Whoops! OK, that was a holdover from previous patches – fixing it now. Thanks!

      Update – OK, I’ve updated it. I know the rule of thumb there isn’t ideal, but I want to cater to people who may not be confident copy-pasting complex macros. Thanks again for pointing that out!

  4. alec
    September 26, 2012

    and by plague leach he means roiling blood

    • Hugh Hancock
      September 26, 2012

      Not really. What’s your argument in favour of roiling blood?

    • charles
      September 26, 2012

      id of said rolling blood as well, especially with Aoe tanking means wasting runes and rolling through targets putting them up

      • Hugh Hancock
        September 26, 2012

        OK, yeah, I’d agree on that one. If you’re mostly doing AoE tanking, Roiling Blood is a good option.

      • Andy
        November 25, 2012

        I would have to agree with Roiling Blood as far as perhaps trash goes, and then switch to Plague Leech when fighting bosses, as Roiling Blood is fairly pointless when it comes to boss tanking.

      • Andy
        November 25, 2012

        Also I would ask why the use of Rune of Swordshattering, is Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle not a better option seeing as it not only increases stam but boosts armour by 4% as well. Surely from a tanking perspective the added stam and armour would be beneficial to our survavibility which then leads to less pressures on the healers. However slight the boost would be surely something is better than nothing.

      • Hugh Hancock
        November 26, 2012

        Rune of Swordshattering vs Rune of the Stoneskin Guardian: EJ has a discussion of that very question at http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t130560-blood_tanking_actively_mitigating_since_before_cool/#Stoneskin_Gargoyle_vs_Swordshattering .

        The short version: a Parry boost is a better deal than the stam/armour boost unless Effective Health (time-before-you-drop assuming no healing) is more of an issue than mitigation (reducing overall damage you take).

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    • Rodrigo Fogagnolo
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      I use the death pact macro too, but with vampiric blood:

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      /cast vampiric blood
      /cast death pact

      So if you have 500k hp, instead of healing 250k, you heal (if you have Glyph of Vampiric Blood) 350k! 40% more

  6. Robert Dillinger
    December 13, 2012

    I have a epic, yet long self heal macro that casts I believe 6-7 spells in sequence, I also like what they had to say about talents, I have double blood, one for AoE with Rolling Blood, and second for bosses with Plague Leech

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