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The Siege of Orgrimmar – what we know about the Garrosh raid in Mists of Pandaria

Yes, it has been revealed. The final raid boss in Mists of Pandaria will be Garrosh Hellscream, in the Siege of Orgrimmar. Yeah, that Garrosh. That Orgrimmar.

Whilst information’s still pretty thin on the ground, we’ve collected the info and the speculation together to attempt to figure out just what happens. How does Garrosh go from being the Warchief – if a much-hated one – of the Horde to the guy we’re ganging up in our 25s to defeat?

Updated March 20th 2012

The Story So Far

Garrosh has already made himself pretty unpopular with just about everyone in Cataclysm.

  • He killed Cairne Bloodhoof, leader of the Tauren, in a duel. The Tauren leader is now Bloodhoof’s son.
  • Vol’jin, the leader of the trolls, has threatened to kill him.
  • He’s insulted and threatened Sylvanas, leader of the Forsaken, and used her troops as patsies against the Worgen and the Gileans.
  • Thrall himself has revealed he’s very, very angry with Garrosh, during the 4.2 questline that culminated in Thrall’s marriage.
  • Oh, and he was responsible for a complete rout against Deathwing’s forces in the Twilight Highlands.

Basically, no-one except the orcs – some of the orcs – like Garrosh at the end of the Cataclysm storyline – but he’s still Warchief.

What we know about what’s coming for Garrosh

We know that in Patch 5.0, before Mists of Pandaria, the Horde will attack Theramore. We don’t know it’s Garrosh giving that particular order, but it seems reasonably likely. That’s not going to endear him to an awful lot of people, including the archmage and noted peacemaker Jaina Proudmoore. (We wrote a lengthy speculation piece about the events of WoW Patch 5.0 some time ago.)

After that, Blizzard revealed during the press event that the opening cutscene for the Horde shows Garrosh going steadily more berserk during the events of early Mists of Pandaria. After some early naval victories, he loses ships – presumably the ones that end up shipwrecked on Pandaria – and kills a goblin messenger who brings him the news. From there, WoWhead says, “He ignores advice to focus on the future instead of the past, and demands payment of debts from realms in his power. “.

Later on in the Mists of Pandaria storyline – in the second half of the expansion – we know that Garrosh will make an appearance on the Pandaren front, as both Alliance and Horde start their war in the Pandaren Krasarang Wilds. We also know that he has “become corrupted”, and will apparently be getting up to Bad Things beneath Orgrimmar. We also know that Vol’jin will be making an appearance, possibly making good on his threats against Garrosh.

Of course, it’s a fair old walk from there to having the Horde and Alliance angry enough to lay siege to Orgrimmar. Rades of Orcish Army Knife has written an excellent speculation post on this subject, asking amongst other things just what Garrosh could do to make the orcs themselves angry enough to attack.

The raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, itself

The Siege of Orgrimmar raid is scheduled to be the last patched raid in the Mists of Pandaria expansion, as the Lich King’s citadel was in Wrath of the Lich King, and Deathwing’s downfall was in Cataclysm. That means that it’s about two years away at this point, and a lot could change between now and then.

At the media event, Blizzard announced that “Both the Alliance and Horde are going to have some really really epic and heroic stuff to do by the end [of Mists]“. We know that both factions will be involved in the siege on the besieging side, and that the ultimate goal will be to end his reign as Warchief.

Of course, this means that much of the raid is likely to take place within Orgrimmar itself – a clever idea from the developers to reuse their art, and one that echos the now-removed “Battle for Undercity” quest chain. Hopefully it’ll be an extension of that quest idea, with a running battle within the city.

Anything else you know or can guess about the Siege of Orgrimmar?

arrow27 Responses

  1. Bryan H.
    18 mos ago

    Wrong. It will be the –FIRST– patch according to Chris Metzen. The MoP events follow that.

  2. 18 mos ago

    Can you give me a link for that info? Everything I’ve heard said “final raid boss”.

  3. Reliq
    18 mos ago

    You’re right, Hugh, it will be the final patch.

  4. Twinfirebear
    18 mos ago

    So the Horde will get to keep Orgrimmar in MoP?

  5. 18 mos ago

    We don’t know, but I’d be very surprised if not. Whether by careful character development or whopping Deus Ex Machina, I’d expect the Alliance to depose Garrosh then leave the city to the Horde.

  6. Eladriell
    18 mos ago

    All I know is it gived me a reason to dust off me grumpy ol’ Tauren and punch that loathsome space-pig. Many seem to assume that because its Orgrimmar being attacked that it means a mainly Alli focused story/plot, but I doubt it’ll be that simplistic. Whatever the case, it seems Blizz are giving their player-base what they want, a chance to stab Gary Sue in the eye with a stick.

  7. 18 mos ago

    You are correct, Hugh. That the Siege of Orgrimmar will be the LAST patch was one of the very first things mentioned in the press review, and one of the first things focused on once the NDA had listed. It’s the first bullet point under “Press Tour In 5 Minutes” here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2687-Mists-of-Pandaria-Press-Tour

  8. DooM-Tanker
    17 mos, 2 wks ago

    Since both sides are going to be apart of the attack on the city to remove Garrosh, It would be interesting to see it as a possible cross-faction raid. Both sides want him gone, and I doubt the alliance would want to stay.

    Being a cross faction player, it’s something I hoped would have happend sooner, with the Lich King and Deathwing.

  9. Cipmt
    17 mos, 1 wk ago

    Yeah, right. They threat to destroy your world, destroy your lands, kill innocent people, raze entire cities, and all you do is to arrest the leader and then leave them be. That means the Alliance leaders are incompetent at least. If that happens, then I suppose the game should be named “World of horde” and use alliance to target practice.

  10. Andrew Williams
    16 mos, 4 wks ago

    Wouldn’t it be fantastic if Gorrosh flees into Ragefire chasm so you have to raid Ragefire to get to him.

  11. Random Peep
    16 mos, 4 wks ago

    Well that could be a perfect idea! @Andrew
    I think it would fit that Garrosh would be one of the first bosses.
    Cause its kinda boring that the fact you know who is the last boss..
    So at end of the expack, people prolly be quitting cause they know what happens.
    Simple as that.

  12. Goronwy
    16 mos, 4 wks ago

    I was thinking the same thing, but they also are emphasizing increasing tensions between the two factions. So i’m not sure working together is going to work in this one.

  13. Jaws
    15 mos, 3 wks ago

    He didn’t kill Carine. >_< He was responsible for alittle more than half the reason how Carine died. In-game, the Tauren quess to kill the Grimtotem guy even tells you that "It took the fury oh hellscream and a coward's poison to kill my father!"

  14. Twicestruck
    15 mos, 1 wk ago

    A lot can change. Cataclysm for instance, had so many plot holes and just stuff thrown into it. Wasn’t a whole raid cancelled?

    Did he really kill Cairne? Cause I played that quest line and he made it very clear that he wouldn’t tolerate murder and foul play to get the things he wanted. Play that quest line again. AND HERE IS A YOUTUBE LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdN5qSRguc0

    He walks in around 2:50

    Anyways, storyline is not something this game is very strong with, things change.

  15. Aj
    14 mos, 2 wks ago

    I think, if the siege on Org really unfolds and Garrosh is on he Menu, they should design it in such a way that he flees to RFC as stated by andrew. Think about it, ragefire our first ever taste of a dungeon, would be absolutely brilliant if it alll ends there . Started as a lv 15 or something in RFC and now at lv 90, just being able to smash it up wud be the most suitable ending i reckon.

  16. Matt
    14 mos ago

    He killed Cairne with a weapon corrupted by Grimtotem blessings, giving him a huge advantage over Cairne in combat.

  17. ArthasBlackhand
    13 mos, 3 wks ago

    Gamon better be a boss in Siege of Orgrimmar

  18. DeadMAn489
    11 mos, 1 wk ago

    i wonder who gets to punch his clock
    thrall with the doomhammer(wont that be a sight)
    varian with hus sword(end of an epic duel)
    baine(vengeance for his father and all other stuff)
    voljin(for being disrespected)
    eitrigg and/or saurfang(for dishonoring the horde)
    jaina(revenge for theramore)
    the number of people are just staggering
    this guy has a list of ppl who hate him longer than anyone can count

  19. ShavethePandas
    11 mos ago

    Actually, Garrosh didn’t kill Cairne, it was the poison Magatha put on Garrosh axe that killed him, if it werent for the poison then Cairne would have beaten the snot out of Garrosh.

  20. ShavethePandas
    11 mos ago

    I think Vol’Jin will kill Garrosh, remember when they talked before? Vol’Jin: ” Ya will spend ya reign glancin’ over ya shoulda and fearin’ tha shadows, for when tha time comes and ya blood be slowly drainin’ out, ya will know exactly who fired da arrow dat pierced ya heart.”

  21. deadman
    10 mos, 4 wks ago

    Vol’jin is an interesting choice to be the one to finally finish wackjob garrosh but knowing blizzard it can be anyone
    baine,saurfang,eitrigg,hamuul,sylvanas,lorthemar
    and these are just horde guys
    the list in the alliance is even longer
    varian(personally i dont want him to even if he has an epic duel with garrosh),jaina,greymane,vereesa windrunner,shandris feathermoon,tyrande whisperwind,malfurion stormrage, man i can now go on naming heroes
    cmon blizzard,let the cat out of the bag
    who gets to kill garrosh

  22. DeadMAn489
    10 mos, 4 wks ago

    dude he just himself used, not a good sign of a good leader
    not doubting his skill but the tauren loyalty lies with baine alone now that he killed cairne
    and if it was a fair fight yes,cairne would’ve won it hands down
    possibly baine might kill garrosh (putting down a rabid garrosh) and succeed as leader of the horde

  23. Lyco
    10 mos, 4 wks ago

    I know it will never happen but I would love to see Sylvannas take over as warchief. If only temporarily. The damage she could with the entire Horde’s forces at her disposal would be amazing to see.

    And since it’s briefly mentioned I would like to say how annoyed I am that they removed the Battle for Undercity quest chain. I know things get removed and time moves on etc but couldn’t they have just changed it’s starting point? It was during Wrath I believe so it could start in Northrend. I know that would be annoying but due to Northrend being locked into the time frame of the LK rule and downfall it would make sense and allow us access to an (admittedly not very well put together) interesting quest chain.

  24. DeadMan489
    7 mos ago

    did that sob garrosh try to kill vol’jin this time
    does he have any screws left in that giant brown head

  25. Oakia
    6 mos, 1 wk ago

    “Yeah, right. They threat to destroy your world, destroy your lands, kill innocent people, raze entire cities, and all you do is to arrest the leader and then leave them be.That means the Alliance leaders are incompetent at least.” ~~~

    Sound like any factions/leaders you know? … Ummm, IDK It seems the writers got lazy and just started paraphrasing curent RL World Events, … America \/ Iraq.

    But alas I am Horde, … Not just in game, … but in mind, and spirit as well. That doesn’t mean I like Hellscream, … I loved Thrall, and by the end of Cata so Did the Aliance. Either Way, … how would someone such as myself, “whom” for his Birthday just got a large Horde Tatoo on his forearm feel if the end of this expansion I had to loose one of my favorite capital cities, altho returning to UC would make things interesting. It’s the point that the game creators must try to find a way to keep all of thier clientel happy, … killing hellscream = happy for me and many of my fellow horde. Loosing Org, … not so much.

  26. Mitch
    5 mos ago

    Imagine, as your fighting him he just won’t go down. You try and try and just when it looks as if you might be gaining the upper hand (25% health) we go to a cut scene. Where he stands over your torn group group, “How dare you attack me! I, the true leader of the horde. I am the Horde, and I will never fall” then Vol’Jin steps out “Your time ‘as come ‘warchief’. No longer will you destroy this horde.” Then bam, raid buff. Vol’jin joins the fight. Pop CDs and burn him down the remaining 25%. Then at the end I want a god damn apology and some kind of revelation from Garrosh.

  27. hakureireimu
    2 mos, 4 wks ago

    i’m hoping it’s going to be Vol’jin.
    my hopes for the raid are quite similar to mitch’s, but vol’jin has to have the finishing blow. he even said it would be his arrow in garrosh’s back.

    also, i like the trolls. (the npc ones, at least.) i’d be happy if he made it to be the new warchief.

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