17 responses

  1. Nicolai
    March 20, 2012

    Please don’t use the word Oriental. I’m not Asian in any way, but for people who are, it conjures the British Imperialist invasions which resulted in things like the taking of Hong Kong and incited the Boxer Rebellion because of greed for Opium. It is a nasty word used to portray Asian culture as a greedy, brutal Fu Manchu stereotype with patronising overtones of the superiority of western culture. Almost every other word you can think of to finish that sentence is better.

    • tony
      March 21, 2012

      http://www.asiaorientalcuisine.com/

      These asian people call it “oriental”. Obviously, it’s not that bad to use that term. Stop being offended for other people.

      • Jessica
        March 22, 2012

        It doesn’t matter whether Nicolai is Asian, because he’s right. But if you absolutely MUST have an Asian person validate this topic, I’ve got some free time!

        “Oriental” is an outdated term in the same way “colored” is. “Asian” is frankly better. I also have no idea who “these” Asians you are referring to. Although I’m sure some of them are your best friends, and one of these imaginary people, speaking for all Asians everywhere, said it was for okay.

        Stop telling other people whether or not they have right to be offended.

        For my own part, I don’t have a problem with the word “Oriental” in this particular context, as I suppose both the word and the article refer to fantasy.

      • Mass Player
        March 21, 2013

        Can I say oriental soup taste good?

    • Hugh Hancock
      March 21, 2012

      Thanks for the comment – it made me think.

      I actually chose to use “Oriental” specifically rather than “Asian” or similar there, because the imagery and fiction of MoP is very specifically descended from a Western fascination with the East that started during the Victorian era and has continued onward ever since. It’s not a genuine reflection of Asian culture – instead, it is, as Apple Cider put it yesterday, decidedly Orientalist, and thus “Oriental” seemed to me the appropriate word to describe it.

      As for the offensiveness or not of the word “Oriental”, I did a bit of digging around, and the American Heritage Book of English Usage, via Wikipedia, seems to say it best: “In certain historical contexts, or when its exotic connotations are integral to the topic, Oriental remains a useful term.”

  2. Strutt
    March 21, 2012

    Actually Orient comes from the Latin word oriens, meaning East. Orenintal just means Eastern… or things from the east. Becasue or historical discrimination against the chinese and japanesse some people in the west find the word offensive.

  3. K
    March 25, 2012

    Farmville? That sounds a lot more like Harvest Moon or Animal Crossing than Farmville. Really disgusting when Facebook games are used for comparisons.

    • Liam
      September 20, 2012

      I think the difference is that Farmville would have you coming every few hours to harvest a certain crop, this coule mean having to get up in the middle of the night for some stupid reason. And even worse, if you were late, the plants wold spoil!

      I am sure blizz are smart enough to only make us have to wait until the Daily Quests reset, which would officially be ‘the next day’. I am certain they would not make your plants spoil if you left them for too long either. Blizzard do silly things sometimes, but they’re not idiots.

  4. Rehan
    March 26, 2012

    Hugh, thank you for an intelligent reply. I’m so glad you gave a proper explanation for why you used Oriental, rather then frothing at the mouth like so many insecure defensive bloggers/posters who don’t want to see the world has changed since the 1930’s pulp era.

    • Hugh Hancock
      March 26, 2012

      No worries! Words are important.

  5. Timetrvlr
    May 23, 2012

    There’s also the Tushui Pandaren, listed under Alliance Rep. You gain rep with them by doing the cooking and fishing dailies.

  6. Beare
    August 31, 2012

    Really? Please don’t call me White that is out dated…… Come on really… you may say your not racist… but you don’t want people called this or i don’t want to be called this.. the only one that is racist is you. Do you really hear Jewish people complaining about being Jewish? and they have for thousands of years been killed for just there beliefs.

    So if you want to erase the hate, start with your self.

    • Hugh Hancock
      August 31, 2012

      I’m really not sure how someone pointing out that terms from a different era can now be considered inappropriate or insulting is racist. I’m sure you can think of examples of terms for black people which are not appropriate for general use today.

      In any case, this isn’t the forum for discussions of racial politics. Let’s keep it on topic, everyone.

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