Let’s open the Heroic floodgates!

by on August 23, 2011


Almost everyone is, at this point, thoroughly sick of the Zul* heroics – and hardly surprisingly, because for anyone looking to maximise their gear in WoW, the choices boil down to running those two dungeons again and again, week after week, with no variety.

And so, today Matthew Rossi of WoW Insider is eloquently arguing that there is, essentially, no good reason at all why Blizzard shouldn’t extend the Zul’s increased level of reward to all Heroics, and alleviate the terrible boredom:

Opening up the other eight heroics to the 140 VP/JP reward for completing them would basically be saying, “At this point, it’s not the gear, it’s the points” — and frankly, that’s exactly the case. With ilevel 365 gear available through dailies and crafting and ilevel 378 gear in the AH from Firelands farming, most players are farming up the valor pieces and items they can get and filling the holes they can’t with JP purchases. With this as the case, it’s simply not necessary to bestow special status on the Zandalari heroics at this point.

Blizzard have definitely placed themselves in an invidious position with this one. On the one hand, all of Matthew’s arguments are valid, and in particular the fact that the entire playerbase is looking at another 4-6 months of repeatedly grinding the same dungeons has got to be a factor in WoW’s unprecedented subscription drops recently.

On the other hand, the Zuls are significantly longer and harder, still, than a conventional Heroic. If they were to up the rewards for all Heroics they’d accomplish two things – firstly, they’d significantly reduce the amount of playtime most hardcore players would spend in the game (from 45min+ for a Zul to 20 mins for some conventional Heroics, times 7 per week). And secondly, they’d be sending a major additional “dumbing down” message, opening the rewards of the Zuls to all players, not just those skilled and/or geared enough to do them, with the predictable backlash.

I don’t know quite what they should do here – I’m just glad I’m not the one making the choice.

What do you think Blizzard should do? Move the Zul rewards to all Heroics, leave it as it is, or something else?
Quote taken directly from Matthew’s post.
You can find Matthew Rossi’s writing on WoW Insider at http://wow.joystiq.com/bloggers/matthew-rossi/

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Saga August 23, 2011 at 6:52 pm

Admittedly I’d prefer if all Heroics shared the same queue – same way they did in Wrath when the three ICC HCs were in the same queue as every other. They still had better loot and were more difficult, but you didn’t feel like you had to run those solely like we do with Zulroics now.

I’d love to be able to queue for a Heroic and get either one of the many HCs that are actually out there. It’d be a lot less mind-numbingly boring if we didn’t do the same two HCs over and over and over…

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Rades August 23, 2011 at 7:19 pm

I don’t think the Zuls and Heroics should be on the same scale – different difficulty, length and rewards, after all – but it would be nice if the points from regular Heroics were scaled up a bit. Maybe 150% so a random gives 105? Anything to reduce the grind, haha.

Really though, I prefer to do normal Heroics. Less chance of a wipe, more JP for honor/enchanting mats/old gear for transmogging, and less time expenditure. Zuls, people fail all the time to mechanics, freak out about bear runs, and in general just bring a higher level of stress.

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Bill August 23, 2011 at 7:46 pm

Nobody is forcing people to do ZA/ZG all the time. In my battlegroup, normal heroic queues are 2-3x faster and less stress than ZA/ZG ones . So I can do half and half. For raiders, they have the option to knock of a few nerfed farm bosses from T11 to help them reach cap.

Also, even at this point in the expansion, not everyone is ZA/ZG ready. Yes, really.

You want choices? You have choices.

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Imakulata August 23, 2011 at 8:06 pm

Bill, I’m not sure if people want choices. Personally, I do and I’m happy that I can cap VP without bloody facerolling Nexus or something – but not everyone wants choices especially when both options come with a drawback (slower gain of VP for 4.0 HCs and the fact there are only 2 of them for 4.1).

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Jamin August 23, 2011 at 8:31 pm

I feel that this would be a wise choice for Blizzard. I think it would firstly give new players and those leveling alts a chance to catch up. Although I also feel that readily geared players wouldn’t neccasarily complain about this ‘shortcut’ either, as it benefits them and ‘may’ prove as a temporary deterent for the now branded – Trollroics.

- Jamin

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